136 - Laughing at Pain w/ Caroline Bennett of Stice
Content warning right at the top we talk about heavy stuff like addiction and sexual abuse, but also this conversation is really funny like an episode of Stella comprised of three art freaks instead. Please follow Caroline (@sticesticestice) and stream Stice for clear skin. Did you know? Your favorite artist’s former girlfriend probably makes amazing art! Also girls is muscled up art handlers too—we can, in fact, do it. If you wanna know the bleeped band you’ll have to listen to the part 2 on Patreon 😈.
Today’s episode, you beg of us? Why, it’s an INTERVIEW with a real life big city ARTIST!! Patrick Quinn joins the ol’ Art and Labor down home country jamboree talking about how to stick it to the system with Sisi Rentals, tagger teen drama (is writing indeed politics by other means? Spoiler alert: yes!), the mayoral race that somehow continues to hold real bodies in space/time inside the real, physical neurological pathways of our brains, plus where to get a free hot dog in times square! If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor email@example.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia school “Constructing the Real” Also! Write us a review on Apple podcasts or whatever other platforms!!
We discuss the bleak the state of art institutions. Schools and museums have been laying off staff without many cuts to executive pay or dips into endowments. They started with low level freelancers, moved on to anyone who to dared unionize, and are now making serious cuts to full-time positions. We use the viral gun-toting wealthy couple and their Louvre of a house to compare institutions to the democratic party—can they be reformed within capitalism, should they be abolished, and how? If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at firstname.lastname@example.org. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia’s school “Constructing the Real”
Episode 22 - We Appreciate Power with Liz Ryerson (Part 1)
What will it take to make you capitulate? We appreciate Liz Ryerson!! OK, Lucia, and Liz discuss fascism, stealing, and losing your sense of self within the capitalist cannibalistic music industry. It’s a music episode!! From Beyoncé and Josh Groban to Grimes and Mitski to Machine Girl and Siivagunner–we talk pop’s relationship to the underground, and culture’s relationship to power. It’s some Gramsci shit bitch!! Part 2 here: https://d.rip/artandlabor
Matthew Thurber joins us as our first in-studio guest!! We discuss his new book Art Comic, now available through Drawn & Quarterly. The book has direct parallels to our lives, it’s kinda nuts, I’m still not over it. We discuss art school problems, new models, ideals, concessions, and debate the merits and pitfalls of book fairs. A big highlight is the part when we all break out Jack Smith impressions. DIY art? Conceptual art? Queer art? All eventually gets sucked up into the dreaded market. We’re gonna work together and fight our way out of this mess. We must!!
Sorry for the delay, I was working the polls from 5AM-10PM yesterday! Fucking wild! We will discuss it and SPX next week when I escape the hurricane zone. Today we read Ben Davis to you. For more, buy his entire book of the same name.
Boots Riley interview where he mentions Ben Davis: