Episode 84 – Art Institutions Update

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Episode 84 - Art Institutions Update

We discuss the bleak the state of art institutions. Schools and museums have been laying off staff without many cuts to executive pay or dips into endowments. They started with low level freelancers, moved on to anyone who to dared unionize, and are now making serious cuts to full-time positions. We use the viral gun-toting wealthy couple and their Louvre of a house to compare institutions to the democratic party—can they be reformed within capitalism, should they be abolished, and how? If you like the podcast and want more, please consider supporting us: https://www.patreon.com/artandlabor. Follow us on twitter and instagram. You can contact Art & Labor at artandlaborpodcast@gmail.com. Please reach out to join the discord for Lucia’s school “Constructing the Real”

Details on Mark and Patricia McCloskey’s insane house: https://news.artnet.com/art-world/gun-wielding-mccloskeys-art-collectors-1891419?fbclid=IwAR3H2acEBL75BZS-nc-CkOuuwzmXTKk0orUvAe4MTrP-hjnXD_Hxw-KaF2s

Guggenheim situation: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/arts/design/guggenheim-investigation-racism.html?fbclid=IwAR1rWNxJ-QTI9tC2gC7Llpv8-SiPrmcQyT7Rw8hNLIZnm9PIsVg8VBUQ-r4

New Museum re-imagining: https://twitter.com/newmuseum_union/status/1277782811311775745

Episode 22 – We Appreciate Power with Liz Ryerson (Part 1)

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Episode 22 - We Appreciate Power with Liz Ryerson (Part 1)


What will it take to make you capitulate? We appreciate Liz Ryerson!! OK, Lucia, and Liz discuss fascism, stealing, and losing your sense of self within the capitalist cannibalistic music industry. It’s a music episode!! From Beyoncé and Josh Groban to Grimes and Mitski to Machine Girl and Siivagunner–we talk pop’s relationship to the underground, and culture’s relationship to power. It’s some Gramsci shit bitch!! Part 2 here: https://d.rip/artandlabor

Follow Liz: http://twitter.com/ellaguro

Buy her music: https://ellaguro.bandcamp.com/

Liz on the game “Thief” in Zeal: https://medium.com/mammon-machine-zeal/a-stairway-to-the-unconscious-thief-the-dark-project-20-years-later-6bd1f92783e9

Siivagunner: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ecwl3FTG66jIKA9JRDtmg

Machine Girl: https://machinegirl.bandcamp.com/

Downtown Boys: https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/

Episode 17 – Art Comic with Matthew Thurber

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Episode 17 - Art Comic with Matthew Thurber


Matthew Thurber joins us as our first in-studio guest!! We discuss his new book Art Comic, now available through Drawn & Quarterly. The book has direct parallels to our lives, it’s kinda nuts, I’m still not over it. We discuss art school problems, new models, ideals, concessions, and debate the merits and pitfalls of book fairs. A big highlight is the part when we all break out Jack Smith impressions. DIY art? Conceptual art? Queer art? All eventually gets sucked up into the dreaded market. We’re gonna work together and fight our way out of this mess. We must!!

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see also episode 11 for more on Jack Smith, and probably our first or second episodes where we start to form opinions about Duchamp

READING – 9.5 Theses on Art and Class

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READING - 9.5 Theses on Art and Class


Sorry for the delay, I was working the polls from 5AM-10PM yesterday!  Fucking wild! We will discuss it and SPX next week when I escape the hurricane zone. Today we read Ben Davis to you. For more, buy his entire book of the same name.

Boots Riley interview where he mentions Ben Davis:


Follow him:


Read along here:


Ben Davis at in an Arts in Bushwick panel on art and labor:


SPX’s mutual aid fund for people being sued by an abusive asshole #defendthe11: